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		<title>By: ishootbirds2</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 09:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>best defense: put a bullet in their head, preferably at 250 or more yards.

dealing with other people: I&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;m the only one in my city that has an AK rifle. California makes people who choose to own a military styled rifle feel really uncomfortable due to the common belief that kind of thing is illegal. so anyone that sees me with my AK rifles and 10/30 magazines would automatically assume that I&#039;m extremely well armed wit ha true assault rifle an dozens of illegal 30 rounds magazines. And for their well-being, stay the heck away from me. I wouldn&#039;t encounter much resistance looking for food, water, supplies. 

I&#039;ll most likely become a leader, I already plan to support 9 people, my family members and closest immediate relatives. I intend on expanding my group to as mu has 250 people.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>best defense: put a bullet in their head, preferably at 250 or more yards.</p>
<p>dealing with other people: I&#8217;m pretty sure I&#8217;m the only one in my city that has an AK rifle. California makes people who choose to own a military styled rifle feel really uncomfortable due to the common belief that kind of thing is illegal. so anyone that sees me with my AK rifles and 10/30 magazines would automatically assume that I&#8217;m extremely well armed wit ha true assault rifle an dozens of illegal 30 rounds magazines. And for their well-being, stay the heck away from me. I wouldn&#8217;t encounter much resistance looking for food, water, supplies. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll most likely become a leader, I already plan to support 9 people, my family members and closest immediate relatives. I intend on expanding my group to as mu has 250 people.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Lord Bearclaw of Gryphon Woods</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lord Bearclaw of Gryphon Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 09:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love zombie questions, because I treat it as a good &quot;what if? mental exercise, similiar to a role-playing session. Zombies would be fast at first, depending on their speed in life, and then quickly get slower. We, as a race, would survive, although there would be a high mortality rate, especially in crowded cities. I tend to keep the same answer for any zombie-related question and cut, paste, and add to as needed because it&#039;s too much work to write this out over and over, so here goes: 

1. Shelter should be top priority - finding a safe base of operations. IF such a thing was possible, as a Nurse I can tell you that at for the first three days or so after death and reanimation, the zombies will be moving at near-regular speed, but after that as muscular decay and necrosis sets in they will get slower and clumsier. Within two weeks they would collapse in jellified heaps of rotting flesh and organs, so forget the &quot;fast-movers&quot; from Dawn of the Dead.

2. I wouldn&#039;t even try to get away, I have everything that I need at home. And really, where would I go? I live in West Virginia, in a small town away from large population centers. If I did have to clear out, I would be driving my Dodge Grand Caravan. It has enough room to take what I need and the size and weight to roll right over any undead in my way. 

3. First thing I do is move my armor and weapons into the attic. (Never, ever take refuge in a basement or underground area - you are trapped, as there is only one way out, and if they get thru the door you are dead or worse.) I am in the SCA, and my armor (steel chainmail hauberk and thick aircraft aluminum plate armor) is built to take full strength hits at speed from baseball bat-like rattan swords, so no zombie even has a hope of scratching it. My weapons include several swords, all of which are full-tang construction and made of strong steel, and all of which I can use well. Guns are OK in a pinch, but require ammo and can jam at the worst times. Baseball bats, crowbars, and other bludgeoning weapons can do okay, but they are usually not balanced for combat and tend to be tip heavy, which throws you off-balance when you swing and makes the weapon difficult and unwieldy. An axe has incredible shearing power, but only has a small area of effective blade and again is incredibly tip-heavy. Machetes are thin, usually stamped out of rolled steel, and have little to no heat tempering. Lacking a &quot;spine&quot; - the thicker middle of a blade&#039;s cross-section, a machete tends to bend when it is used against thick bone structures. Fighting for almost twenty years in the SCA has taught me that the sword, well-balanced, (esp. the Japanese katana) has the quickest recovery time and allows the warrior to strike and defend multiple times while an axeman is delivering one or two attacks.
Once I am in the attic I would pull the stairs up after me and armor up. If any zombies were in the house I would drop the stairs and let them come up one at a time, because it is ridiculously easy to decapitate someone coming headfirst up a set of stairs. Fight in doorways as well in order to limit the number of attackers that can reach you at any given minute.

4. Never go for the headshot with a melee weapon - it can become lodged in the skull. Always swing for the neck to sever the spinal column, or take off hands and legs. A legless zombie can&#039;t chase you too well, and a handless one can&#039;t grab you. The only &quot;vital&quot; organ a zombie has is its brain, so you must either damage it to the point where it can no longer function i.e. send electrical impulses to the musculature, or separate it from the body completely i.e. decapitation. Attempting to thrust your weapon into a zombies body will do no real damage at all - instead concentrate on severing lower arm/hand areas, ankles, and of course, the neck.
Once the house was emptied of threats I would set about barricading doors and windows and inventorying how much canned food I had, filling up as many jerry cans and milk jugs as possible with water, and taking stock of my first aid supplies. You cannot assume that electric, gas, and water services will stay on long, so I would eat any perishable foodstuffs first and recharge any electric devices such as a power drill and a sportlight (mine is five million candlepower and can run for eight total hours on a full charge).

5. Any restaurants in the area would also suffer a loss of power and therefore their food would also spoil. Food in their freezers might last a few more days, but at one time I was a restaurant manager and I can tell you that nine out of ten times the freezer is locked. A better choice for raids is the supermarket canned goods aisle, as well as their pharmacy for antibiotics (I&#039;m a nurse, I know what I&#039;m looking for), but remember that you may also be in competition or conflict with other survivors for such resources, and they will be wanting to take what you have as well - you may be forced to defend yourself against other humans. Good food choices are all canned goods, Ramen noodles, presweetened Kool-aid packets, canned juices, hard candies, pudding cups, pop tarts, bottled water, and various other non-perishable, non-refrigerated foodstuffs. Stay away from bread and milk, as they spoil far too quickly. Concentrate instead on things that can be heated on a campstove or over a campfire, and reconstituted with water, like Ramen noodles. If you are using non-bottled water for cooking, boil it for five minutes to kill any bacteria. 

6. Soon I would be reconnoitering the area to see how many people had survived uninfected, and eliminating any zombies around by drawing them out and engaging them in single combat or in twos and threes so as not to get surrounded. Always keep on the move and change your direction of travel often to prevent them cutting across your intended path or surrounding you. I don&#039;t live near a graveyard, so the only undead around would have to be the newly dead. Any corpse (human or animal) that has been dead for over three weeks or so probably would not reanimate simply because of the level of decay present. Because of this I might wait a few days before scouting in order to give any viable undead time to further decay. As their bodies start to decompose they would get slower and weaker, becoming easier to dispatch or dodge. Within two to three weeks the whole zombie plague would fall apart as they decay past any point of muscular viability. A fresh, newly dead zombie will be just as fast and strong as he was in life, but give it a few days and they decay. 

7. &quot;Blending in&quot; with them is usually not an option, as they can smell your blood and sense your heart beating. Anyone trying to do so is committing suicide. 

8. As for other &quot;Hollywood&quot; refuges, a&#039;la Dawn of the Dead, I would never, ever, head for a mall or other large public area - far too undefendable. I would also not place my trust in river islands as a refuge unless the current was deep and fast: zombies cannot drown, so theoretically they can float to the island like so much deadwood (and as decay sets in they would be bloating with gases so they would most likely float) or walk across the bottom (as the pirate crew did in PotC:CotBP) to you if the water is slow. Ocean islands are better, but you must be sure they are uninhabited first, and never dock your boat initially - anchor it out a ways and row in with a canoe, that way if there are too many to fight at first you can pick off a few and then retreat to your boat, rinse and repeat until the beach is clear. For me it is a moot point - I am nowhere near the coast - but I do live 150 yards from a large, deep, fast-moving river. The Kanawha empties into the Ohio, the Ohio empties into the Mississippi, and the Mississippi empties into the Gulf of Mexico, but that is a journey of thousands of miles. Northern regions where the climate is routinely below freezing are good places to head for, because the human body, even a zombified one, is still 90% water, and water freezes. Zombies have no body heat, so in freezing temps they become zombiesicles. 

9. I would use the canoe as last-ditch transportation downriver if the Caravan was somehow rendered useless. If I was able to stay in one place I would make sure that it was easy to see that I was a survivor in order to avoid the fate of the guy in Night of the Living Dead - living thru the ordeal just to get mistaken for a zombie and headshot. I would exit the attic and set up &quot;camp&quot; on the roof, with radio, dome tent, and a big sign. So what if I attract a few zombies? Without any way of getting to me they would simply mill about on the ground until I snuck down the back of the house using our rope fire escape ladder (which I would keep on the roof) and decapitated a few at a time as they slowly came around the house. I do not believe that after three days any would have the ability or coordination to climb, but I would make it a priority to take out fast-movers first. 

10. Various gear I have at hand right now that I would find useful:
Binoculars, Rope and Grappling hook, Coleman lantern, 5-cell Maglite, matches or lighters, can opener, battery operated perimeter alarms, canteen, mess kit, liquid fuel operated campstove, sleeping bag, backpack, handcuffs, armor repair kit, handaxe, whetstone and metal file, toiletries, flare gun, inflatable raft, and a canoe.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love zombie questions, because I treat it as a good &quot;what if? mental exercise, similiar to a role-playing session. Zombies would be fast at first, depending on their speed in life, and then quickly get slower. We, as a race, would survive, although there would be a high mortality rate, especially in crowded cities. I tend to keep the same answer for any zombie-related question and cut, paste, and add to as needed because it&#8217;s too much work to write this out over and over, so here goes: </p>
<p>1. Shelter should be top priority &#8211; finding a safe base of operations. IF such a thing was possible, as a Nurse I can tell you that at for the first three days or so after death and reanimation, the zombies will be moving at near-regular speed, but after that as muscular decay and necrosis sets in they will get slower and clumsier. Within two weeks they would collapse in jellified heaps of rotting flesh and organs, so forget the &quot;fast-movers&quot; from Dawn of the Dead.</p>
<p>2. I wouldn&#8217;t even try to get away, I have everything that I need at home. And really, where would I go? I live in West Virginia, in a small town away from large population centers. If I did have to clear out, I would be driving my Dodge Grand Caravan. It has enough room to take what I need and the size and weight to roll right over any undead in my way. </p>
<p>3. First thing I do is move my armor and weapons into the attic. (Never, ever take refuge in a basement or underground area &#8211; you are trapped, as there is only one way out, and if they get thru the door you are dead or worse.) I am in the SCA, and my armor (steel chainmail hauberk and thick aircraft aluminum plate armor) is built to take full strength hits at speed from baseball bat-like rattan swords, so no zombie even has a hope of scratching it. My weapons include several swords, all of which are full-tang construction and made of strong steel, and all of which I can use well. Guns are OK in a pinch, but require ammo and can jam at the worst times. Baseball bats, crowbars, and other bludgeoning weapons can do okay, but they are usually not balanced for combat and tend to be tip heavy, which throws you off-balance when you swing and makes the weapon difficult and unwieldy. An axe has incredible shearing power, but only has a small area of effective blade and again is incredibly tip-heavy. Machetes are thin, usually stamped out of rolled steel, and have little to no heat tempering. Lacking a &quot;spine&quot; &#8211; the thicker middle of a blade&#8217;s cross-section, a machete tends to bend when it is used against thick bone structures. Fighting for almost twenty years in the SCA has taught me that the sword, well-balanced, (esp. the Japanese katana) has the quickest recovery time and allows the warrior to strike and defend multiple times while an axeman is delivering one or two attacks.<br />
Once I am in the attic I would pull the stairs up after me and armor up. If any zombies were in the house I would drop the stairs and let them come up one at a time, because it is ridiculously easy to decapitate someone coming headfirst up a set of stairs. Fight in doorways as well in order to limit the number of attackers that can reach you at any given minute.</p>
<p>4. Never go for the headshot with a melee weapon &#8211; it can become lodged in the skull. Always swing for the neck to sever the spinal column, or take off hands and legs. A legless zombie can&#8217;t chase you too well, and a handless one can&#8217;t grab you. The only &quot;vital&quot; organ a zombie has is its brain, so you must either damage it to the point where it can no longer function i.e. send electrical impulses to the musculature, or separate it from the body completely i.e. decapitation. Attempting to thrust your weapon into a zombies body will do no real damage at all &#8211; instead concentrate on severing lower arm/hand areas, ankles, and of course, the neck.<br />
Once the house was emptied of threats I would set about barricading doors and windows and inventorying how much canned food I had, filling up as many jerry cans and milk jugs as possible with water, and taking stock of my first aid supplies. You cannot assume that electric, gas, and water services will stay on long, so I would eat any perishable foodstuffs first and recharge any electric devices such as a power drill and a sportlight (mine is five million candlepower and can run for eight total hours on a full charge).</p>
<p>5. Any restaurants in the area would also suffer a loss of power and therefore their food would also spoil. Food in their freezers might last a few more days, but at one time I was a restaurant manager and I can tell you that nine out of ten times the freezer is locked. A better choice for raids is the supermarket canned goods aisle, as well as their pharmacy for antibiotics (I&#8217;m a nurse, I know what I&#8217;m looking for), but remember that you may also be in competition or conflict with other survivors for such resources, and they will be wanting to take what you have as well &#8211; you may be forced to defend yourself against other humans. Good food choices are all canned goods, Ramen noodles, presweetened Kool-aid packets, canned juices, hard candies, pudding cups, pop tarts, bottled water, and various other non-perishable, non-refrigerated foodstuffs. Stay away from bread and milk, as they spoil far too quickly. Concentrate instead on things that can be heated on a campstove or over a campfire, and reconstituted with water, like Ramen noodles. If you are using non-bottled water for cooking, boil it for five minutes to kill any bacteria. </p>
<p>6. Soon I would be reconnoitering the area to see how many people had survived uninfected, and eliminating any zombies around by drawing them out and engaging them in single combat or in twos and threes so as not to get surrounded. Always keep on the move and change your direction of travel often to prevent them cutting across your intended path or surrounding you. I don&#8217;t live near a graveyard, so the only undead around would have to be the newly dead. Any corpse (human or animal) that has been dead for over three weeks or so probably would not reanimate simply because of the level of decay present. Because of this I might wait a few days before scouting in order to give any viable undead time to further decay. As their bodies start to decompose they would get slower and weaker, becoming easier to dispatch or dodge. Within two to three weeks the whole zombie plague would fall apart as they decay past any point of muscular viability. A fresh, newly dead zombie will be just as fast and strong as he was in life, but give it a few days and they decay. </p>
<p>7. &quot;Blending in&quot; with them is usually not an option, as they can smell your blood and sense your heart beating. Anyone trying to do so is committing suicide. </p>
<p>8. As for other &quot;Hollywood&quot; refuges, a&#8217;la Dawn of the Dead, I would never, ever, head for a mall or other large public area &#8211; far too undefendable. I would also not place my trust in river islands as a refuge unless the current was deep and fast: zombies cannot drown, so theoretically they can float to the island like so much deadwood (and as decay sets in they would be bloating with gases so they would most likely float) or walk across the bottom (as the pirate crew did in PotC:CotBP) to you if the water is slow. Ocean islands are better, but you must be sure they are uninhabited first, and never dock your boat initially &#8211; anchor it out a ways and row in with a canoe, that way if there are too many to fight at first you can pick off a few and then retreat to your boat, rinse and repeat until the beach is clear. For me it is a moot point &#8211; I am nowhere near the coast &#8211; but I do live 150 yards from a large, deep, fast-moving river. The Kanawha empties into the Ohio, the Ohio empties into the Mississippi, and the Mississippi empties into the Gulf of Mexico, but that is a journey of thousands of miles. Northern regions where the climate is routinely below freezing are good places to head for, because the human body, even a zombified one, is still 90% water, and water freezes. Zombies have no body heat, so in freezing temps they become zombiesicles. </p>
<p>9. I would use the canoe as last-ditch transportation downriver if the Caravan was somehow rendered useless. If I was able to stay in one place I would make sure that it was easy to see that I was a survivor in order to avoid the fate of the guy in Night of the Living Dead &#8211; living thru the ordeal just to get mistaken for a zombie and headshot. I would exit the attic and set up &quot;camp&quot; on the roof, with radio, dome tent, and a big sign. So what if I attract a few zombies? Without any way of getting to me they would simply mill about on the ground until I snuck down the back of the house using our rope fire escape ladder (which I would keep on the roof) and decapitated a few at a time as they slowly came around the house. I do not believe that after three days any would have the ability or coordination to climb, but I would make it a priority to take out fast-movers first. </p>
<p>10. Various gear I have at hand right now that I would find useful:<br />
Binoculars, Rope and Grappling hook, Coleman lantern, 5-cell Maglite, matches or lighters, can opener, battery operated perimeter alarms, canteen, mess kit, liquid fuel operated campstove, sleeping bag, backpack, handcuffs, armor repair kit, handaxe, whetstone and metal file, toiletries, flare gun, inflatable raft, and a canoe.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: zack</title>
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		<dc:creator>zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 09:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>find a place near places where i can get alot of supplies but  build a base high up like an empty water tower make an enterance that only allows me to open it then i&#039;d find some weapons and ammo and just wait it out and i&#039;d become a lone wolf i work better by myself but i&#039;d always help my family&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>find a place near places where i can get alot of supplies but  build a base high up like an empty water tower make an enterance that only allows me to open it then i&#8217;d find some weapons and ammo and just wait it out and i&#8217;d become a lone wolf i work better by myself but i&#8217;d always help my family<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Billybob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billybob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>old style medieval castle lock myself in with food and water until their bodies fail oh and ill keep a few good hunting rifles for sport with my &quot;besiegers&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>old style medieval castle lock myself in with food and water until their bodies fail oh and ill keep a few good hunting rifles for sport with my &quot;besiegers&quot;.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: The Link</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Link</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 07:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a situation like that, an ideal defense would be a good old fasioned bunker, stocked with a months worth of food. Since their senses are more accute, and since they aren&#039;t stupified, it would probably be wise for the bunker to be hidden (ie; under a building) and to clean the area around the entrance(s) of any scent that you have been there (like Will Smith&#039;s character did in I am Legend). It would be a matter of holing up and waiting it out until the zombies&#039; bodies gave out. Then you would be scott free, although probably rather lonely. But thats what video games are for ^_^

Another alternative survival plan would be to make for a remote, low populated area, preferebly in a desert. The hungry zombies wouldn&#039;t likely waste time where there was no food or water if their primal hungers were in overdrive, and the desert, being just such a place, would then serve as a nice deterrant.

Perhaps the safest location would be at sea, on a small ship, alone. Just sail into the middle of the Atlantic, away from people, and wait it out. Chances are even a zombie smart enough to pilot a boat or aircraft that could reach you would have little incentive to do so with so many more abundant food sources on the mainland areas.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a situation like that, an ideal defense would be a good old fasioned bunker, stocked with a months worth of food. Since their senses are more accute, and since they aren&#8217;t stupified, it would probably be wise for the bunker to be hidden (ie; under a building) and to clean the area around the entrance(s) of any scent that you have been there (like Will Smith&#8217;s character did in I am Legend). It would be a matter of holing up and waiting it out until the zombies&#8217; bodies gave out. Then you would be scott free, although probably rather lonely. But thats what video games are for ^_^</p>
<p>Another alternative survival plan would be to make for a remote, low populated area, preferebly in a desert. The hungry zombies wouldn&#8217;t likely waste time where there was no food or water if their primal hungers were in overdrive, and the desert, being just such a place, would then serve as a nice deterrant.</p>
<p>Perhaps the safest location would be at sea, on a small ship, alone. Just sail into the middle of the Atlantic, away from people, and wait it out. Chances are even a zombie smart enough to pilot a boat or aircraft that could reach you would have little incentive to do so with so many more abundant food sources on the mainland areas.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: nikkerkat2</title>
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		<dc:creator>nikkerkat2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 06:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>find an antidote and cure everyone.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>find an antidote and cure everyone.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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